Only show emojis for `:emoji:`, not regular smileys
This already came up in #601 (closed) (and CC #164), but I want to have a separate issue for it: The only way to produce emojis should be to actually spell out the emoji in colons, i. e., :smile:. Regular smileys, like :), :D, :/, should be text, not emoji images.
(My main issue is with :) and :/, which look very different from their emoji counterparts :/.)
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I think the
:)should turn into:grinning:😀 instead of😄 To me what I associate with
:)is http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html#263a , especially when looking at the most simplistic icons. In the icon set this is supposedly:relaxed:☺️ My association with those "open mouthed grins" is one of happiness, of exuberance.So why not leave the typed smileys alone and add a special button for inserting emojis? The same way that mobile applications like Whatsapp do it, if I type
:)it stays that way and if I want to insert an emoji I use the button (this also makes it unnecessary to figure out what the emoji I want is called)
Created by: vermiculus
I agree with precedent here; the colon is sufficient. For searching, there's http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com. It would be a duplicated effort to index them all within gitter again. If it's really necessary, it could link out to a static index.
Though perhaps it may be a good idea to add synonyms or flexible searching, but this is probably a rabbit hole for the current issue and it is certainly bikeshedding it.
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Created by: ctrueden
Why see a text instead of an image?
Two reasons:
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Consistency. GitHub issues does not render
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Confusion. It is confusing when character sequences containing special characters, but which were not intended to represent emoticons, get overaggressively mangled that way. (See e.g.
property :property_nameexample above.)
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Consistency. GitHub issues does not render
@ctrueden If someone wants to write something as a part of code or something related which they don't want to be rendered into an image, then they may wrap the text with two backticks
:property_nameor they can put a\(backslash) and escape the character from parsing.Moreover, Github is not a messaging site. But gitter.im is and it should behave and work to some extend like any other IM services (though it's more programmer oriented).
Backticks are not always available, especially on mobile (and this is a messaging site, it should work well on mobile).
And not all IM services are equal. Automatic emojis might be appropriate for a casual chat app, but less so for a service where we want to have serious development discussions.
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Created by: smathy
@abhisekp perfect, working like other chat apps would be great. All other group chat apps that I've used either do not emoji-fy ascii at all unless it's real colon-string-colon emoji, or they provide an option for automatically emoji-fying non-emoji. Either would be perfect for gitter.
@lucaswerkmeister Well, adding fun to "serious" dev discussion is fun too
😺 @smathy I agree with you about option to turn off the auto emoji-fy (emoji-fying by default).
Some people here seem to be forgetting that you can still type emoji in gitter using
:smile:or:joy_cat:or whatever. Those who know how to access them (such as users on mobile) could also add the literal Unicode characters as well.This issue is only about the automatic replacement of
:)with😄 and so on.:)could still itself be used as an emoticon (just not an emoji)! This doesn't prevent non-serious developer discussions.
@asmeurer +1, I don't want an emoji image unless I type the Unicode emoji character or the
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Created by: ctrueden
The
😄 is too much of a grin.@Demon000 That is not something defined by the Gitter team. The Emoji are used all over including on GitHub. I guess they could specifically override that one smiley but even so, that would be a separate issue to this one.
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Created by: ghost
@Demon000 please make that an issue, I would like to support it
I agree with @mholt If
:Pis rendered, it should be a word in itself. And for other smileys, it should be possible to write as:smile::smile::smile:(without any spaces between them)Apart from the fact that it's a terrible UX for a chat that's targeted at developers to automatically transform : into an unrelated image, it's also a terrible design simply because the damn smiley emoticons look like LAUGHTER instead of smileys. You can't put a smiley on gitter unless you use one of these:
☺️ 😇 😋 😌 😏 😊 😉 😍 Problem is, none of them are even close to a proper smiley that's just:)This is how a smiley emoticon should look like: http://usefulshortcuts.com/imgs/yahoo-smileys/1.gif-
Created by: ghost
@dasilvacontin @ashnur @asmeurer
Don't post about that here. We don't want it to get off-topic.
That's an unrelated issue, which has its own thread. https://github.com/gitterHQ/gitter/issues/1027
Don't post about that here. We don't want it to get off-topic. That's an unrelated issue, which has its own thread Only show emojis for
:emoji:, not regular smileysSorry if I didn't make myself clear @georgiel, but I do have an issue with
:)(and others) getting automatically translated to an emoji (which I can't even preview until I hit send), and I would prefer if we could avoid such behaviour. And the fact that I don't feel like any emoji expresses:)makes it even worse.To me, the fact that the emoji doesn't fully correlate with the smiley is a secondary issue. Because there isn't one I would be happy with anyways (at list from the pool of emojis that Gitter makes available to us).
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Created by: GeorgeWL
@dasilvacontin I realise that was part of what you said, but still, if it contains a seperate issue too in the comment it can make discussion go even further off-topic, now the issue has been split off to it's own thread #1027 (closed) .
